"et al, were still squires and you openly talked about the importance of being able to dance and that doing arts was part of the prerequisites to being a knight. I think that's been lost; knights are no longer expected to be well-rounded gentlemen, they are combatants."
I tend to think that each of the bestowed peerages contains individuals that are not sterling examples of their order. When I am taking the measure of an order, one of the things I look to is the qualities of the newest candidates. I recognize that it is the Crown, not the Order that makes the offer, but looking at the freshest blood gives a snapshot of *This* at this instant is what we deem worthy of our order. With that as a background, I'm surprised to you alluding to the idea that Knights are lacking in Arts or Courtly Graces.
When I look at the last 5 offers which span 2.5 years, I know one individual in passing, two individuals reasonably, one individual well, and one individual intimately :). Judging the 4 I know at least reasonably, I find that each has at least a passing background in Arts, Service, and Courtly Graces.
Could you provide more specifics on exactly what lack you see? I suspect we differ either in how well we know the candidates or in expectation levels and I would love to see where that difference lies.
I know for my boy, he is most likely to travel to something that includes fighting. Most of his arts happen either at home or at local meetings/events. I wonder if some of the disconnect is related to distance and travel.
Knights as Stick Jocks
I tend to think that each of the bestowed peerages contains individuals that are not sterling examples of their order. When I am taking the measure of an order, one of the things I look to is the qualities of the newest candidates. I recognize that it is the Crown, not the Order that makes the offer, but looking at the freshest blood gives a snapshot of *This* at this instant is what we deem worthy of our order. With that as a background, I'm surprised to you alluding to the idea that Knights are lacking in Arts or Courtly Graces.
When I look at the last 5 offers which span 2.5 years, I know one individual in passing, two individuals reasonably, one individual well, and one individual intimately :). Judging the 4 I know at least reasonably, I find that each has at least a passing background in Arts, Service, and Courtly Graces.
Could you provide more specifics on exactly what lack you see? I suspect we differ either in how well we know the candidates or in expectation levels and I would love to see where that difference lies.
I know for my boy, he is most likely to travel to something that includes fighting. Most of his arts happen either at home or at local meetings/events. I wonder if some of the disconnect is related to distance and travel.